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Postby SuperSonic » Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:06 pm

Is it just me, or am I seeing Sesame Street Characters as Muppets? Did I miss a possible copyright that made them Muppets? Or did Jim Henson have two sets of them if you will.

Can anyone explain this?
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Postby Zombie Pumpkins! » Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:34 pm

"Muppets" was a term that Jim Henson began using in the mid-50s to describe his unique puppets. Through the 60s, his characters were mainly used for commercials and various TV appearances.

By the time of "The Muppet Show" series in the 70s, the term officially referred to characters form that series (and later TV specials, movies and spin-off shows including "Muppets Tonight" in the 90s).

Starting in 1969, Henson had also begun creating and performing puppet characters for Sesame Street. They might be "muppets" in design, but they aren't officially part of the same group. The Sesame Street puppets are owned by the Sesame Workshop.

The Jim Henson Company also created the "Fraggle Rock" show in the 80s. But they're technically not "muppets" either.

As of 2004, The Walt Disney Company bought the Muppets and now own the name. So the only true "muppets" are the ones owned by Disney (I'm sure there are lengthy and humorous legal documents in the Disney files that list every character included in the deal... everything from "Uncle Deadly" to "Dr. Julius Strangepork")

So yeah... Disney owns the Muppets, Sesame Workshop owns the Sesame Street characters, and The Jim Henson Company owns the Fraggles.

So you won't often see these characters mixed together, just for legal reasons. The notable exception is Kermit the Frog. He is now controlled by Disney, but Sesame Workshop has permission to use old sketches featuring Kermit, but such sketches are rarely used in new episodes of Sesame Street.

Oh... and if you were asking why Sesame Street characters are listed in a pattern search for "muppets" here, I set it up this way because I figured not everyone knows the difference in the names, and plus I assume that fans of the Muppets might also be interested in other Jim Henson created characters.

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Postby Dadja » Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:13 am

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Postby Mistress_of_Halloween » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:38 pm

There is one Christmas Special that was made in the 80's called a Muppet Family Christmas that has the Sesame Street Characters, the "Muppets" and the Fraggle Rock Characters. It even has a cameo by Jim Henson. I watch it every year at Christmas....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtgYDpvRCMI
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Postby keifferone » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:50 pm

Mistress_of_Halloween wrote:There is one Christmas Special that was made in the 80's called a Muppet Family Christmas that has the Sesame Street Characters, the "Muppets" and the Fraggle Rock Characters. It even has a cameo by Jim Henson. I watch it every year at Christmas....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtgYDpvRCMI

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Postby Chewy » Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:32 pm

Hah, funny story. I was lucky enough to be given a star wars chronology book for my birthday last week (it is quite the book by the way) & was reading it last night. In the chapter that talked about the influences & the world before star wars, there was a little callout picture of Jim Henson - with Kermit looking over his shoulder and Ernie in the foreground.

Had a little chuckle to myself...
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Postby SuperSonic » Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:24 pm

Found this today while looking up Swedish Chef.

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